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. >> john mccain by the way broke his own rule of not using the filibuster. he said in the past he has pbro that rule. he is worried about his re-election in 2014. they said they are going to vote for closure. what do they think they are going to find in ten days? do they want to use it for ten more days of argument about benghazi something over which chuck haegle had nothing to do with. >> it sounds like for mccain and gram they want to drag it out. >> one of the most important things for people to understand about the way the senate works and the way that the filibuster works, one way to look at the senate, is a finite amount of legislating hours. every hour you can burn, that is a win. it is a finite budget. when you can spend that time, and it eats up a lot of time, you are shrinking the amount of time. so, one of the huge effects of the constant filibustering is more chewing up the clock making it impossible to use every hour of that time. this is the perfect example. what they have gained themselves are hours that no one is getting back in the 113th con
. >> john mccain by the way broke his own rule of not using the filibuster. he said in the past he has pbro that rule. he is worried about his re-election in 2014. they said they are going to vote for closure. what do they think they are going to find in ten days? do they want to use it for ten more days of argument about benghazi something over which chuck haegle had nothing to do with. >> it sounds like for mccain and gram they want to drag it out. >> one of the most...
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senator john mccain says he may filibuster chuck hagel's nomination if the president doesn't get more information on the attack in benghazi and a hold on general renan if he doesn't get answers about the use of drones in the united states of america. that's an issue we talked about last week when i asked the chairman of the house intelligence committee that very question, whether he could see a time when drowns were used against american citizens on american soil. >> i don't think we'll ever get there. i think it's very, very important to understand that the legal justification for using an air strike against an enemy, no matter their citizenship, is long standing in this country. they no longer have the benefit of u.s. citizenship to protect them when they're on foreign land fighting the battle of the united states. >> earlier, i spoke with rand paul of kentucky and asked him if he thinks he is wrong. >> well, he didn't say no. what i want to hear from john brennan before i agree to let his nomination go forward, that no cia or the department of defense cannot kill someone in america
senator john mccain says he may filibuster chuck hagel's nomination if the president doesn't get more information on the attack in benghazi and a hold on general renan if he doesn't get answers about the use of drones in the united states of america. that's an issue we talked about last week when i asked the chairman of the house intelligence committee that very question, whether he could see a time when drowns were used against american citizens on american soil. >> i don't think we'll...
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john mccain was looking for viication for the surge. chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue it is chuck hagel. his prproblem is not synta it is elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as a legitimate elected government. we know that the revolutution of 2009 was sparked by the fact that it was a rigd election, at an illegitimate government. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he was asked about the policy of contaient. it was not a bad during issue. he said, yes i support the administration's policy on containment. he then received a note and says i he been told i made a mistake. of course, i am not in support of that.t. the policy of this administration on containining is that it does not have a policy. at which point, democratic senator levin had to rescue him and said, in fact, the administration has a policy of containment, and it is to oppose it. he was clueless. >> colby. clueless? >> he was in a position where he had to dodge a little bit. let'go back to the
john mccain was looking for viication for the surge. chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue it is chuck hagel. his prproblem is not synta it is elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as a legitimate elected government. we know that the revolutution of 2009 was sparked by the fact that it was a rigd election, at an illegitimate government. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he was asked about the policy of...
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why is john mccain so angry? 40 years after the vietnam p.o.w.s came home, the most famous of them is angrier than ever. why is america, why are we fighting the vietnam war all over again in the united states senate? the ticked off vitriol against chuck hagel, what is it about? is it for show? is it about something hagel said in the cloakroom? is it the unfairness of vietnam itself, that some went and some didn't? is it about johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what burns so deeply in john mccain these days? it seems to excite those who knew nothing about vietnam but want to replay it. we dig into the deep well of resentment burning in john mccain's patriotic heart. a resentment not against the north vietnamese who imprisoned and tortured him all those years, not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stain mccain's reputation back in 2000, but against a guy who fought against fear and rallied against wounds just like he did in the same army of america's long nightmare in vietna
why is john mccain so angry? 40 years after the vietnam p.o.w.s came home, the most famous of them is angrier than ever. why is america, why are we fighting the vietnam war all over again in the united states senate? the ticked off vitriol against chuck hagel, what is it about? is it for show? is it about something hagel said in the cloakroom? is it the unfairness of vietnam itself, that some went and some didn't? is it about johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what burns so deeply...
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senator john mccain's latest gripe is personal. >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was republican, he attacked president bush mercilessly. at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover, said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense. and was very amti his own party and his own people. people don't forget that. >> people also don't forget that years after hagel's republican herecy, john mccane said this of the man in 2006. i would be honored to have chuck with me in any capacity. he'd make a great secretary of state. people have also not forgotten that this filibuster has nothing to do with chuck hagel and everything to do with a republican vendetta against the white house. >> all three of us said we're not going to go forward on the hagel nomination until they testify about what happened in benghazi. >> and while republicans now say this latest delay will give them enough time to decide about hagel, they continue to leave the door open to unspecified shan an begans. >> i'm confident in the next week, un
senator john mccain's latest gripe is personal. >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was republican, he attacked president bush mercilessly. at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover, said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense. and was very amti his own party and his own people. people don't forget that. >> people also don't forget that years after hagel's republican herecy, john mccane...
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anybody who ever saw mccain grill donald rumsfield knows that this is john mccain. this is his job. they are there to advise and consent, not to rubber stamp. if they are not going to get the scrutiny and tough questions now, then when? >> why was he so much tougher on chuck hagel than john kerry? >> because there are so many inconsistencies with hagel. i have never -- i don't remember a hearing where there were clarifications to clarifications that then had to be clarified. when there were so many, i regret having said that. there were so many what i meant to say, what i should have said, because he was doing a terrible job, because he's not giving answers. john kerry gave answers. we just saw an interview with leon panetta where he gave answers. he answered masterfully. we saw three tough hearings this week. secretary clinton on benghazi. we saw john kerry go through a hearing. and chuck hagel. and you can not compare the first two to chuck haguel. after i watched the hearing, i remembered the lyrics to a country song. you mean i shaved my legs for this? you mean we're having this
anybody who ever saw mccain grill donald rumsfield knows that this is john mccain. this is his job. they are there to advise and consent, not to rubber stamp. if they are not going to get the scrutiny and tough questions now, then when? >> why was he so much tougher on chuck hagel than john kerry? >> because there are so many inconsistencies with hagel. i have never -- i don't remember a hearing where there were clarifications to clarifications that then had to be clarified. when...
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that's just unbelievable, that those words came out of john mccain's mouth. >> is mccain bitter? i mean, mccain really went after him. it looked like hagel was caught off guard, like john, you and i have been friends for a long time. i did some good things for you. i supported you when i needed it. and you know i'm qualified for this job to be the head of the pentagon, defense secretary. it was almost like he was stunned by it. your thoughts. >> i think you're right. i think it was very personal. i was stunned by it, too. especially the way mccain kept pursuing it and pursuing it. clearly, john wanted chuck to say yes, i was wrong and you were right. and of course the verdict of history, as hagel tried to say, is still out on that. and frankly, in my view as a soldier, the surge had almost nothing to do with the actual increase in american troops. what it had to do was the coincidence of a number of things that were already moving in iraq. not least of which was the awakening. and it had to do with very frankly a general by the name of david petraeus taking advantage of this in o
that's just unbelievable, that those words came out of john mccain's mouth. >> is mccain bitter? i mean, mccain really went after him. it looked like hagel was caught off guard, like john, you and i have been friends for a long time. i did some good things for you. i supported you when i needed it. and you know i'm qualified for this job to be the head of the pentagon, defense secretary. it was almost like he was stunned by it. your thoughts. >> i think you're right. i think it was...
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when, by the way, that sank john mccain's first attempt at the primary. but, the difference now is a lost election, the fact that republicans got 27% of the hispanic vote when they should be getting 40%. and you have a very attractive, popular conservative leading the charge and i think there will be conservatives who are not on the boat but having marco rubio out there and out front on this is key and will be good for the republican party. >> it is risky for rubio. we have to be clear on that. while he's extremely popular, and again, we all like him, there is a divide here and the -- in the republican party. we have 23 million americans either unemployed or under employed and the idea that this will be' boon to the economy, tell that to the middle class worker in ohio who sees his pag wages stagnated and people unemployed for long term periods of time. it is a tough deal for them. >> the difficulty for the republican party, chris, you have a disconnect between primary politics and general election politics and marco r b rubio understands is it does not d
when, by the way, that sank john mccain's first attempt at the primary. but, the difference now is a lost election, the fact that republicans got 27% of the hispanic vote when they should be getting 40%. and you have a very attractive, popular conservative leading the charge and i think there will be conservatives who are not on the boat but having marco rubio out there and out front on this is key and will be good for the republican party. >> it is risky for rubio. we have to be clear on...
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we'll show you why john mccain says why republicans have it in for the nominee. >>> the karn vil cruise ship, at lost last returned to port last night with little power, few working bathrooms. there was a collective sigh of relief from the more than 3,000 passengers. but even leaving the "triumph" proved difficult. with one working elevators, it took fours to disembark. nbc's mark potter joins us live from mobile, alabama, passengers are off the ship, mark from talking to them what is the lasting image that you're going to have of this endeavor. >> well, it's very clear, they're very glad to be off that ship and on terra firma. people were along the ralgs cheering when it come to dock. most said that the living conditions after that engine fire just got increasingly worse and became unbearable. maybe said the worst time was right after the engine fire because they didn't know what was going on. they hadn't been fully informed and that scared them. as we heard at the beginning of the program, many people also praised the crew members saying they worked really hard to comfort the passenge
we'll show you why john mccain says why republicans have it in for the nominee. >>> the karn vil cruise ship, at lost last returned to port last night with little power, few working bathrooms. there was a collective sigh of relief from the more than 3,000 passengers. but even leaving the "triumph" proved difficult. with one working elevators, it took fours to disembark. nbc's mark potter joins us live from mobile, alabama, passengers are off the ship, mark from talking to...
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john mccain, by the way, broke his own rule and own supposed rule of not using filibuster on cabinet nominees. he's broken with the rule to stand with his sidekick, lindsey graham, afraid of a primary challenge, worried about his re-election in 2014. the only reason i can think of to delay this then guys when they said it's a fore gone, they, themselves are going to vote for cloture, is a fishing exhibition. what to they think they'll find in ten days? use it for ten more days of excruciating irrelevant argument about benghazi, something over which chuck hagel had nothing, no oversight, nothing to do with? it's irrelevant to his nomination. >> chris, it sounds like for mccain and graham, they want to drag it out. they don't even sound like they're looking for some smoking gun. >> i think one of the most important things for people, you know this better than i, one of the most important things for people to understand about the way the senate works and the filibuster works is that one way to look at a congress, a senate, 113th, is as a finite amount of legislating hours. let's say 5,0
john mccain, by the way, broke his own rule and own supposed rule of not using filibuster on cabinet nominees. he's broken with the rule to stand with his sidekick, lindsey graham, afraid of a primary challenge, worried about his re-election in 2014. the only reason i can think of to delay this then guys when they said it's a fore gone, they, themselves are going to vote for cloture, is a fishing exhibition. what to they think they'll find in ten days? use it for ten more days of excruciating...
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senator john mccain is proposing holding up the nomination of john brennan because, well, john mccain. but even in the midst of that conflict, there is an interesting confluence of opinion right now that something major should be changed in mr. brennan's field of expertise. mr. brennan broached the subject in a "washington post" profile that ran about him last october. the acting director of the cia from whom mr. brennan would take over if he is confirmed, that acting director raised the issue in an article "the new york times" published about the cia in december. and now the man, the republican senator who is threatening to hold up the brennan nomination so the acting director has to stay on, this republican senator, he too says that he agrees that something big needs to be changed. >> what we really need to do is take this whole program out of the hands of the central intelligence agency and put it into the department of defense where you have adequate oversight, you have committee oversights, you have all the things that are built in as our oversight the department of defense. but
senator john mccain is proposing holding up the nomination of john brennan because, well, john mccain. but even in the midst of that conflict, there is an interesting confluence of opinion right now that something major should be changed in mr. brennan's field of expertise. mr. brennan broached the subject in a "washington post" profile that ran about him last october. the acting director of the cia from whom mr. brennan would take over if he is confirmed, that acting director raised...
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. >> shannon: senator john mccain's calling on the president to call a summit. and senator lindsay graham is calling on the president to take a pay cut for every day that they can't get together and find a solution. the sequester will have different effects on every state, military bases and national parks and the possibility that mauler airports could be forcinged to shut down altogether for a period of time. former republican governor from mississippi knows about cutting back. he joins us now. thank you for coming in. >> thank you. we are talking about federal budgets, but a lot of federal money flows into each state. >> it does. this sequester will affect the defense budget and the nondiscretionary budget, it won't affect the 60% of the federal government and its entitlements. so you are talking about support for education and head start and that sort of stuff. but let's be realistic about this. the idea that it's going to hurt the economy, this is about 3/10 of 1% of gdp. we are talking about cutting spending by 2.4%. this is not some draconian cut. when i w
. >> shannon: senator john mccain's calling on the president to call a summit. and senator lindsay graham is calling on the president to take a pay cut for every day that they can't get together and find a solution. the sequester will have different effects on every state, military bases and national parks and the possibility that mauler airports could be forcinged to shut down altogether for a period of time. former republican governor from mississippi knows about cutting back. he joins...
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senator john mccain said he and his senate colleagues will support hagel as leader of the pentagon. republicans and others filibustered hagel's confirmation last week. mccain says he expects fahagel be confirmed next week. >>> microsoft deals with a string of problems. the latest involves a worldwide outage for a service that stores data. the service went down yesterday afternoon. the company says it's slowly restoring the program. to add on to the problems, it's the latest company to suffer a hacking attack. it's giving few details about what happened but said it affected a small number of employees' computers. no customer data was stolen during the attack. microsoft now joins facebook, twitter, and apple as online companies that have been hacked in the past month. >>> if you've noticed that your office has been a little empty this winter, you're not alone. more americans called out of work sick in january than any other month in nearly five years. the bureau of labor statistics says nearly 3 million full-time employees missed work last month because of illness. more than 1 million
senator john mccain said he and his senate colleagues will support hagel as leader of the pentagon. republicans and others filibustered hagel's confirmation last week. mccain says he expects fahagel be confirmed next week. >>> microsoft deals with a string of problems. the latest involves a worldwide outage for a service that stores data. the service went down yesterday afternoon. the company says it's slowly restoring the program. to add on to the problems, it's the latest company to...
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the toughest questions came from senator john mccain. >> will you please answer the question? were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no. >> my reference to -- >> are you going to answer the question, senator hagel? the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straight forward question. >> well, do you think senator hagel is qualified to take the top post at the pentagon? why or why not? tell us what you think on the "nightline" facebook page, or you can tweet us. thanks for watching abc news. "good morning america" will be here waiting for you in the morning with the latest on the buildup to super bowl sunday. we're always online at abcnews.com. good night, america.
the toughest questions came from senator john mccain. >> will you please answer the question? were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no. >> my reference to -- >> are you going to answer the question, senator hagel? the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straight forward question. >> well, do you think senator hagel...
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i can say, though, john mccain is one of the -- he is serious about all the issues. he is treating this nomination like everything he --s with great seriousness, and i commend him for that. >> we're just learning that at least the associated press and the boston globe both reporting that scott brown will not be running for the seat next toor to you in rhode island. what do you think of that, since he was widely viewed as the biggest challenge to a perspective democrat running for that open seat? of course, the john kerry seat. >> i -- all politics is local. i'm a little surprised, but i -- my reaction would be that he has made a decision. he knows better than anyone what's it like to serve in the senate, what is it like to run for the senate, and you have to thank him for his service and respect his decision. >> and back to the hagel situation and what's going to happen at d.o.d. we've been talking here about how his performance, assuming that he does get confirmed, does that weaken him going into the pentagon where there are a lot of sharks ready to attack? >> no, a
i can say, though, john mccain is one of the -- he is serious about all the issues. he is treating this nomination like everything he --s with great seriousness, and i commend him for that. >> we're just learning that at least the associated press and the boston globe both reporting that scott brown will not be running for the seat next toor to you in rhode island. what do you think of that, since he was widely viewed as the biggest challenge to a perspective democrat running for that...
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the treatment of john kerry by john mccain versus chuck hagel and john mccain is night and day. we have to leave it there, but after the break top republicans m house and senate part way on a key debt ceiling bill. will the intraparty scism end in heartburn or heart break? for over 75 years people have saved money with...ohhh... ...with geico... ohhh...sorry! director's voice: here we go. from the top. and action for over 75 years people have saved money with gecko so.... director's voice: cut it! ...what...what did i say? gecko? i said gecko? aw... for over 75 year...(laughs. but still trying to keep it contained) director's voice: keep it together. i'm good. i'm good. for over 75...(uncontrollable lahtuger). what are you doing there? stop making me laugh. vo: geico. saving people money for over seventy-five years. gecko: don't look at me. don't look at me. >>> the republican party is engaged in a fierce game of tug-of-war with itself. last week after speaker john boehner pleaded with his party to vote for a bill to extend the debt limit for three months, 33 members broke rank.
the treatment of john kerry by john mccain versus chuck hagel and john mccain is night and day. we have to leave it there, but after the break top republicans m house and senate part way on a key debt ceiling bill. will the intraparty scism end in heartburn or heart break? for over 75 years people have saved money with...ohhh... ...with geico... ohhh...sorry! director's voice: here we go. from the top. and action for over 75 years people have saved money with gecko so.... director's voice: cut...
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a, john mccain has constituents that are very angry about this, right? and then there is marco rubio, who on saturday calls the president's plans half baked and, you know, dead on arrival, when in reality, there's a lot the president's plan had in common with rubio's proposals, from what we understand them. >> what happened over the weekend was an ugly part of politicking. on one side, we're supposed to let bipartisan discussions go forward, the president did actually start calling some republican senators. the flip side was the sense that rubio could be using that leaked proposal as a way to blow up any kind of a deal. i don't actually think that is the case. i think republicans, as howard said, want this to get done for a variety of reasons. more because of the shellacking last cycle, then the pro-business side pushing it that way. i think that's been happening for a while. i think, frankly, far more than gun control, immigration has a far more possibility of getting done in d.c. than anything else. >> jared, eugene robinson writes, "the president's pr
a, john mccain has constituents that are very angry about this, right? and then there is marco rubio, who on saturday calls the president's plans half baked and, you know, dead on arrival, when in reality, there's a lot the president's plan had in common with rubio's proposals, from what we understand them. >> what happened over the weekend was an ugly part of politicking. on one side, we're supposed to let bipartisan discussions go forward, the president did actually start calling some...
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just ahead senators john mccain and lindsay graham sounded optimistic after meeting with president obama on immigration reform. what it means for the prospects of a bipartisan deal. we'll speak with congressman luis gutierrez and alan grayson. plus the state of illinois is one step closer to marriage equality. we'll bring you the details ahead. look, if you have copd like me, you know it can be hard to breathe, and how that feels. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms by keeping my airways open for 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that does both. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. these may worsen with spiriva. discuss all medicines you take, even eye drops. stop taking spiriva and seek immediate medical help if your breathing suddenly worsens, your throat or tongue swells, you get hives,
just ahead senators john mccain and lindsay graham sounded optimistic after meeting with president obama on immigration reform. what it means for the prospects of a bipartisan deal. we'll speak with congressman luis gutierrez and alan grayson. plus the state of illinois is one step closer to marriage equality. we'll bring you the details ahead. look, if you have copd like me, you know it can be hard to breathe, and how that feels. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps...
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[♪...] >> chris: we are back with senator john mccain. senator, welcome. >> thank you, chris. >> chris: you just heard nancy pelosi talk about the automatic spending cuts that kick in on march 1. she wants a mix of cuts and, yes, more taxes, which i know you don't like. on the other hand, if you go to the automatic cuts, sequestration you get a 13% cut over the rest of this year in the pentagon which i know you also don't like. if it comes down to that, higher taxes or sequestration, the pentagon cuts, where do you you go? where do you come down? >> obviously i don't want to see taxes increased but what i would like to see is the president call the leaders over to the white house and say look, we got to solve this problem. this sequestration, secretary panetta, outgoing secretary of defense is one of the most widely respected men or person in washington, d.c. and he has been saying this nationalstate our nation security. republicans and democrats are responsible for this new cliff and i will take responsibility tore it for the republicans
[♪...] >> chris: we are back with senator john mccain. senator, welcome. >> thank you, chris. >> chris: you just heard nancy pelosi talk about the automatic spending cuts that kick in on march 1. she wants a mix of cuts and, yes, more taxes, which i know you don't like. on the other hand, if you go to the automatic cuts, sequestration you get a 13% cut over the rest of this year in the pentagon which i know you also don't like. if it comes down to that, higher taxes or...
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and, senator john mccain. pelosi and mccain, only on fox news sunday. then, senators grill the president's nominee for cia director over the targeted killing of terror suspects. we'll ask our sunday panel about new demands to lift the veil on drone strikes. and, our power player of the week can tell you almost everything the president does. and, how often he does it. all, right now on fox news sunday. ♪ >> chris: and, hello again, from fox news in washington. when president obama delivers his state of the union speech tuesday, one big issue will be sequestration. $85 billion in automatic spending cuts, due to kick in, march 1st. the white house now warns this will mean damaging layoffs of teachers, law enforcement and food safety inspectors. and, the pentagon will be hit, too. they propose a mix of spending cuts and, yes, more taxes, through limiting deductions, for the wealthy. i sat down late friday with house democratic leader nancy pelosi and asked her about the fast-approaching deadline. congressman pelosi, welcome back to fox news sunday. >> wel
and, senator john mccain. pelosi and mccain, only on fox news sunday. then, senators grill the president's nominee for cia director over the targeted killing of terror suspects. we'll ask our sunday panel about new demands to lift the veil on drone strikes. and, our power player of the week can tell you almost everything the president does. and, how often he does it. all, right now on fox news sunday. ♪ >> chris: and, hello again, from fox news in washington. when president obama...
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he's been mean to john mccain. this process has said more about republicans than quite franklin it has said about chuck -- >> what about this issue of him -- is he going to be in charge of the pentagon? >> i think that is going to be the test for chuck hagel when he is sworn in fairly quickly and fairly soon as the next defense secretary. and i think there's no doubt he's going to go into that building and he'll take strong command of it. and that's what is going to be remembered. >> that is the toughest job in washington for the best and most qualified person and this process has weakened him, and his personality is probably not suited for this job. i can assure you of one thing. robert gibbs is going to be very happy he's not standing at that press podium the first time chuck hagel opines about the president's foreign policy and their disagreements on it. >> i can tell you there were a lot of reporters that were answering to be on this trip to brussels. >> the reasons that are being shown to hold up this nominati
he's been mean to john mccain. this process has said more about republicans than quite franklin it has said about chuck -- >> what about this issue of him -- is he going to be in charge of the pentagon? >> i think that is going to be the test for chuck hagel when he is sworn in fairly quickly and fairly soon as the next defense secretary. and i think there's no doubt he's going to go into that building and he'll take strong command of it. and that's what is going to be remembered....